Epstein's former girlfriend told Justice Dept she did not see Trump act in 'inappropriate way'
Maxwell, a onetime socialite who was convicted in 2021 of helping lure teenage girls to be sexually abused by Epstein, was interviewed over the course of two days last month by Blanche at a Florida courthouse.
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Maxwell repeatedly praised Trump and said she never saw him engage in any form of sexual behaviour
Washington, 23 August
Jeffrey Epstein's imprisoned former girlfriend repeatedly denied to the
Justice Department witnessing any sexually inappropriate interactions with
Donald Trump, according to records released Friday meant to distance the
Republican president from the disgraced financer.
The Trump administration issued hundreds of pages of transcripts from
interviews that Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche conducted with Ghislaine
Maxwell last month as the administration was scrambling to present itself as
transparent amid a fierce backlash over an earlier refusal to disclose a trove
of records from the sex-trafficking case.
The records show Maxwell repeatedly showering Trump with praise and
denying under questioning from Blanche that she had observed Trump engaged in
any form of sexual behaviour.
The administration was presumably eager to make such denials public at a
time when the president has faced questions about a long-ago friendship with
Epstein and as his administration has endured continued scrutiny over its
handling of evidence from the case.
The transcript release represents the latest Trump administration effort
to repair self-inflicted political wounds after failing to deliver on expectations
that its own officials had created through conspiracy theories and bold
pronouncements that never came to pass.
By making public two days of interviews, officials appear to be hoping
to at least temporarily keep at bay sustained anger from Trump's base as they
send Congress evidence they had previously kept from view.
After her interview with Blanche, Maxwell was moved from the
low-security federal prison in Florida to a minimum-security prison camp in
Texas to continue serving a 20-year sentence for her 2021 conviction on
allegations that she lured teenage girls to be sexually abused by Epstein.
Her trial featured sordid accounts of the sexual exploitation of girls
as young as 14 told by four women who described being abused as teens in the
1990s and early 2000s at Epstein's homes.
Neither Maxwell's lawyers nor the federal Bureau of Prisons have explained the reason for the move, but one of her lawyers, David Oscar Marcus,
said in a social media post Friday that Maxwell was “innocent and never should
have been tried, much less convicted.”
“I actually never saw the President in any type of massage setting,”
Maxwell said, according to the transcript. “I never witnessed the President in
any inappropriate setting in any way. The President was never inappropriate
with anybody. In the times that I was with him, he was a gentleman in all
respects.”
Maxwell recalled knowing about Trump and possibly meeting him for the
first time in 1990, when her newspaper magnate father, Robert Maxwell, was the
owner of the New York Daily News. She said she often had been to Trump's
Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Florida, sometimes alone, but hadn't seen
Trump since the mid-2000s.
Asked if she ever heard Epstein or anyone else say Trump “had done
anything inappropriate with masseuses” or anyone else in their orbit, Maxwell
replied, “Absolutely never, in any context.”
Maxwell, a onetime socialite who was convicted in 2021 of helping lure
teenage girls to be sexually abused by Epstein, was interviewed over the course
of two days last month by Blanche at a Florida courthouse.
She was given limited immunity, allowing her to speak freely without
fear of prosecution for anything she said except for in the event of a false
statement.
Meanwhile, the Justice Department on Friday began sending to the House
Oversight Committee records from the investigation that the panel says it
intends to make public after removing victim's information.
The case had long captured public attention in part because of the
wealthy financer's social connections over the years to prominent figures,
including Prince Andrew, former President Bill Clinton and Trump, who has said
he had a falling-out with Epstein years ago and well before Epstein came under
investigation.
Maxwell told Blanche that Clinton was initially her friend, not
Epstein's, and that she never saw him receive a massage - nor did she believe
he ever did. The only times they were together, she said, were the two dozen or
so times they travelled on Epstein's plane.
She also spoke glowingly of Britain's Prince Andrew and dismissed as
“rubbish” the late Virginia Giuffre's claim that she was paid to have a
relationship with Andrew and that he had sex with her at Maxwell's London home.
“That would've been the only time that I think that President Clinton
could have even received a massage,” Maxwell said. “And he didn't, because I
was there.”
Maxwell sought to distance herself from Epstein's conduct, repeatedly
denying allegations made during her trial about her role. Though she
acknowledged that at one point Epstein began preferring younger women, she
insisted she never understood that to “encompass children”.
“I did see from when I met him, he was involved or -- involved or
friends with or whatever, however you want to characterise it, with women who
were in their 20s,” she told Blanche. “And then the slide to, you know, or
younger looking women. But I never considered that this would encompass
criminal behaviour.”
Epstein was arrested in 2019 on sex-trafficking charges, accused of
sexually abusing dozens of teenage girls, and was found dead a month later in a
New York jail cell in what investigators described as a suicide.
The saga has consumed the Trump administration following a two-page
announcement from the FBI and Justice Department last month that Epstein had
killed himself despite conspiracy theories to the contrary, that a “client list” that Attorney General Pam Bondi had intimated was on her desk did not
actually exist, and that no additional documents from the high-profile
investigation were suitable to be released.
The announcement produced outrage from conspiracy theorists, online
sleuths and Trump supporters who had been hoping to see proof of a government
coverup.
That expectation was driven in part by comments from officials,
including FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy Director Dan Bongino, who on
podcasts before taking their current positions had repeatedly promoted the idea
that damaging details about prominent people were being withheld.
Patel, for instance, said in at least one podcast interview before
becoming director that Epstein's “black book” was under the “direct control of
the director of the FBI.”
The administration had an early stumble in February when far-right
influencers were invited to the White House in February and provided by Bondi
with binders marked “The Epstein Files: Phase 1” and “Declassified” that
contained documents that had largely already been in the public domain.
After the first release fell flat, Bondi said officials were poring over
a “truckload” of previously withheld evidence she said had been handed over by
the FBI and raised expectations of forthcoming releases.
But after a weekslong review of evidence in the government's possession,
the Justice Department determined that no “further disclosure would be
appropriate or warranted.”
The department noted that much of the material was placed under seal by
a court to protect victims and “only a fraction” of it “would have been aired
publicly had Epstein gone to trial.”
Faced with fury from his base, Trump sought to quickly turn the page,
shutting down questioning of Bondi about Epstein at a White House Cabinet
meeting and deriding as “weaklings” supporters who he said were falling for the
“Jeffrey Epstein Hoax.”
The Justice Department has responded to a subpoena from House lawmakers
by pledging to turn over information.
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